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In the second week of the landmark trial between Elon Musk and OpenAI, Musk\u2019s motivations for bringing the suit were under scrutiny.<\/p>\n

Last week, Musk took the stand, alleging that OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and president Greg Brockman had deceived him into donating $38 million to the company. He claimed that they\u2019d promised to maintain it as a nonprofit dedicated to developing AI for the benefit of humanity, only to later accept billions of dollars of investment from Microsoft and restructure the company to operate a for-profit subsidiary.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n

This week, Brockman fired back with his side of the story, arguing that Musk had actually pushed for OpenAI to create a for-profit arm and fought a bitter battle to have \u201cabsolute control\u201d over it. OpenAI has argued that Musk is suing because he didn\u2019t get his way and is now trying to undermine a competitor to his own AI company, xAI.<\/p>\n

Shivon Zilis, a former OpenAI board member and the mother of four of Musk\u2019s children, also testified, revealing that Musk tried to recruit OpenAI CEO Sam Altman to lead a new AI lab at his electric-car company, Tesla.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Musk cofounded OpenAI in 2015 with Altman, Brockman, and others but left in 2018. Now, he\u2019s asking the court to remove Altman and Brockman from their roles and to unwind the restructuring<\/a> OpenAI undertook last year, which converted its for-profit subsidiary into a public benefit corporation. He is also seeking as much as $134 billion<\/a> in damages from OpenAI and Microsoft, OpenAI\u2019s investor.\u00a0<\/p>\n

The outcome of the trial could upend OpenAI\u2019s race toward an IPO at a valuation approaching $1 trillion. Meanwhile, xAI, which Musk founded in 2023, is now a division of his rocket company, SpaceX; the combined companies are also expected to go public as early as June, at a target valuation of $1.75 trillion<\/a>.<\/p>\n

On Monday, Brockman walked into the courtroom in a blue suit and tie, holding hands with his wife, Anna Brockman. On the stand, he was serene, even chipper, as he recalled OpenAI\u2019s early days. But he grew agitated under impassioned questioning from Elon Musk\u2019s lawyer, Steven Molo. Altman listened in silence, while Anna Brockman sat behind him, fidgeting. Outside the courthouse, protesters rallying against the AI race sang hymns over the voices of lawyers giving press conferences.<\/p>\n

Two days before trial began, according to Brockman, Musk messaged<\/a> him to ask if he would be interested in settling. When Brockman suggested that both sides drop their claims, Musk texted back: \u201cBy the end of this week, you and Sam will be the most hated men in America. If you insist, so it will be.\u201d<\/p>\n

Musk stormed out with a Tesla painting<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Last week, Musk testified that he\u2019s suing to save OpenAI\u2019s nonprofit mission to develop AI safely, but he said he was open to seeing OpenAI become a capped-profit company with moderate investments from Microsoft<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n

This week, Brockman told the jury that Musk was never truly committed to keeping OpenAI a nonprofit. In the summer of 2017, when an AI model that OpenAI built beat the world\u2019s best players in a video game called Dota 2<\/a>, Musk hosted a gathering at his \u201cHaunted Mansion\u201d near San Francisco. The house was splattered with confetti and cups, Brockman recalled, and the actress Amber Heard, who was Musk\u2019s girlfriend at the time, served whiskey.<\/p>\n

\u201cTime to make the next step for OpenAI. This is the triggering event,\u201d Musk wrote in an email\u2014having said weeks earlier that if OpenAI made a major public achievement, it would be \u201ctime to create a for-profit,\u201d Brockman told the jury.<\/p>\n

Over the next six weeks, Brockman said, Musk and the other cofounders had intense discussions about creating a for-profit entity to raise enough capital to build artificial general intelligence\u2014powerful AI that can compete with humans on most cognitive tasks. Musk wanted to have majority equity in the entity and the right to choose a majority of the board members. He also wanted to be its CEO, said Brockman.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Brockman testified that in August 2017, he and other cofounders gathered to hash out the terms of the for-profit structure. Ilya Sutskever, OpenAI\u2019s chief scientist at the time, arrived bearing a painting of a Tesla as a \u201ctoken of goodwill\u201d in return for the actual Teslas Musk had given them days earlier. \u201cIt felt a little bit like [Musk] was buttering us up, right,that he wanted us to feel indebted to him,\u201d Brockman told the jury.<\/p>\n

When Brockman and Sutskever proposed that they all have equal shares of equity, said Brockman, Musk fell silent and finally said, \u201cI decline.\u201d Musk then stood up and \u201cstormed around the table,\u201d he said. \u201cI actually thought he was going to hit me.\u201d Musk grabbed the painting and walked out.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Brockman said that afterwards he struggled to decide whether to continue building OpenAI with Musk or break away. \u201cThere was a fork in the road,\u201d he said. \u201cDo we accept Elon\u2019s terms? Or do we reject the terms, he quits to create his own, and then we create our own?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cThe one thing we could not accept was to hand him unilateral, absolute control, potentially, over the AGI,\u201d Brockman told the jury.<\/p>\n

What was Brockman thinking?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

In his theatrical baritone, Molo argued that Brockman was motivated by greed rather than a commitment to OpenAI\u2019s nonprofit mission to develop AI that benefits humanity. He noted that while Brockman never invested money in the company, he now owns a stake worth close to $30 billion.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cSolving for the mission has always been my primary motivation,\u201d Brockman said, pushing back on Molo\u2019s characterization of him. \u201cIt remains so today.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

Molo pulled up Brockman\u2019s electronic journal on a screen in the courtroom, trying to show the jury what Brockman was really thinking behind the scenes. In 2017, while negotiating with Musk about the future of OpenAI, Brockman wrote about wanting to become a billionaire: \u201cFinancially what will take me to $1B?\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cWhy didn\u2019t you take the $29 billion and donate it to the nonprofit that you had a fiduciary duty to, for the good of humanity?\u201d Molo asked Brockman, raising his voice to dramatize moral indignation.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Molo then pulled up a journal entry Brockman had written in November 2017, while he was torn over whether to turn OpenAI into a for-profit without Musk: \u201cit\u2019d be wrong to steal the nonprofit from him. to convert to a b-corp without him. that\u2019d be pretty morally bankrupt.\u201d Brockman and Musk had previously considered creating a b-corp, which is a for-profit company that pursues a social mission.<\/p>\n

Brockman explained, \u201cI meant it would actually serve the mission, but it\u2019d be hard to look at yourself in the mirror.\u201d<\/p>\n

Molo also tried to undermine Brockman\u2019s credibility by revealing that he holds a stake in multiple companies with business ties to OpenAI, including the AI company Cerebras, the cloud provider CoreWeave, and the nuclear fusion startup Helion Energy. Altman has tried to steer OpenAI into deals<\/a> with companies that he invests in, including Helion and the rocket maker Stoke Space, drawing scrutiny over potential conflicts of interest.<\/p>\n

Former OpenAI chief technology officer Mira Murati and former OpenAI board member Helen Toner both appeared in video depositions. They addressed the brief firing of Altman in 2023, saying that they could not trust him because of his alleged history of lying<\/a>. Murati\u2019s text messages<\/a> with Altman from that time, which were introduced as evidence, revealed his desperate attempts to understand what was happening and regain control.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Musk plotted a rival AI lab at Tesla<\/strong><\/h3>\n

After Brockman\u2019s two days of testimony, Shivon Zilis, who left OpenAI\u2019s board in 2023, took the stand in a black jacket and black jeans, appearing composed but with a flicker of nerves. OpenAI\u2019s lawyer Sarah Eddy asked her in a deceptively soothing voice whether she acted as a conduit for Musk as he tried to poach OpenAI\u2019s cofounders to work at a new AI lab within Tesla. Eddy argued that Musk is suing OpenAI only to undermine a competitor in the AI race.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Zilis said she met Musk while working at OpenAI as an informal advisor in 2016, and that they had a \u201cone-off\u201d romantic encounter. In 2017, she joined Tesla and Musk\u2019s brain-implant company, Neuralink. In 2020, she joined OpenAI\u2019s board of directors. She became pregnant with Musk\u2019s children through IVF but did not disclose her ties with Musk to OpenAI until Business Insider<\/em><\/a> reported them in 2022.\u00a0<\/p>\n

By late 2017, Musk had concluded that OpenAI was unlikely to build AGI and pivoted to building an AI lab at Tesla, according to an email sent to Zilis.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Eddy pulled up a draft of an FAQ document that Zilis emailed a colleague at Tesla in 2017 about an event the company was organizing at the NeurIPS AI conference: \u201cThe purpose of this event is to share that Tesla is building a world leading AI lab(?) which will rival the likes of Google\/DeepMind and Facebook AI Research.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

Zilis told the jury that when Musk was still on OpenAI\u2019s board, he tried to recruit Altman to lead that prospective AI lab. Musk had asked Andrej Karpathy, an OpenAI research scientist he\u2019d recruited to work at Tesla, \u201cto send a list of top OpenAI people to poach,\u201d according to a text message by Zilis.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cThere is little chance of OpenAI being a serious force if I focus on TeslaAI,\u201d Musk texted Zilis in 2018, just before he left OpenAI. Tesla\u2019s AI lab never came to fruition.<\/p>\n

Eddy pressed Zilis about whom she was loyal to when she was working for OpenAI and Musk at the same time. \u201cI had an allegiance to the best outcome for AI for humanity,\u201d Zilis told the jury.<\/p>\n

What\u2019s going on next week?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Next week, Ilya Sutskever will testify, as will Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella. The lawyers for both Musk and OpenAI will deliver their closing arguments. The jury will begin deliberating the week after and deliver an advisory verdict guiding the judge to decide the case.<\/p>\n

This story is part of <\/em>MIT Technology Review\u2019s ongoing coverage of the <\/em>Musk v. Altman trial. Follow<\/em> @techreview<\/em><\/a> or <\/em>@michelletomkim<\/em><\/a> on X for up-to-the-minute reporting.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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